They were very... obviously they were devoted to each other. They weren't well matched I wouldn't have said, at all. I think she had the thin end of the wedge, rather. I think she had quite a hard time throughout our childhood and growing up to the extent that she was compelled by him to leave her two children, aged 14 and 16 or something or even less, at a strange boarding school where they had never been just before a major world conflagration and go abroad and live in Africa. She had to do that and I think it broke her, really, it was... I remember very much... because I didn't feel the solemnity of this but she did and she was very distressed about it. Used to call it 'The Great Waverley Wrench' because it happened on Waverley station platform... Bye!... and she just thought, well that's the end of that. Nowadays, I don't think a woman would do it but in those days you had to follow your man.